What Do You Believe?

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   Doug

   March 3, 2025

   7a
   God and His son and the Holy Spirit

   There is ever only one God. The word of God says that God is the God of the spirits of all flesh in Numbers 16:22 and 27:16 and that he is the Father of all spirits in Hebrews 12:9. So reason that if God is the God of the spirits of all flesh, and that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, 1 John 4:2,3, then it stands as truth that God is also Jesus’ God. How can any who are born of a woman in the flesh be their own God? It would be idolatry.
   John 1:1
   So, why is Jesus called the Word of God? Well, because he is God’s possession. (Proverbs 8:22). God possesses Jesus, Jesus doesn’t possess God. And that he is God’s possession is the very same reason that God affectionally calls the Son of Man “my servant”, (Isaiah 42:1). And gave the same Son of Man His Spirit, which is also a possession of God’s. God directs His Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit doesn’t direct God. It is God that upholds all things. Nothing upholds God. It is His own power. God upholds all things by His Word. God’s Word is the power of God and the wisdom of God, and not Jesus own power or his own wisdom, but Jesus is in unison with God’s mind, (Hebrews 1:1-3 Note: examine verse 3 carefully using the context indicators of verses 1 and 2. His own power means God’s own power, not Christ’s own power. Although God shares this power with his obedient children for His own purposes it is the power of God not the individuals own power). God put His words into Jesus mouth (Deuteronomy 18:18). And Jesus did always that which he saw and heard of his Father, who is God, (John7:16-18; 8:28,38,50). The problem with interpretation is the proper distinguishing of what is /OF/ God and that which God does /BY/ His Word. (1Corinthians 8:6) makes this clear by the use of the terms /OF/ and /BY/, as well also Hebrews 1:1-3. Again, it is God who spoke the Word, and it is by His Word that he does all things. His Word didn’t speak itself. It is God who gave the power to speak His word unto Jesus, which is why Jesus said that he came to BEAR WITNESS of the truth, and God gives that power unto every obedient creature that He has made. And so the Word was and is and always will be God’s Word. It is His possession, and to whomsoever He will give it.
   Now, John 1:1 says the Word /WAS/ God. True. But the part of the verse that is overlooked, all the while they are on their way to proving the false doctrine that Jesus is God, is the part of the verse that says the Word was /WITH/ God. This part of the verse that says the word was with God identifies individuality of two persons the Conductor and His Persona or the Composer and His Avatar, (which means ‘to cross’). The part of the verse that says the Word was God, is saying in reality that the two individuals are of the same conception, that is, in terms of being of the same plan or course of action. They are, by the Persona, the Avatar, in being fully compliant to the composition of the Composer, (which in this case is God), the Persona becomes the expression of the Composer in intent, in heart, in will, and in performance of the Composers plan, His composition. The cause for which Paul said that Jesus is the Express Image of the person of God, Hebrews 1:3. There is a writer and there is a performer of the writers work. God is the writer, He sent His son Jesus to perform it. Jesus is the one God sent to be the Expression of His will that men should be conformed to. Which is why it is written that every believer is to be conformed to the image of His son, Romans 8:29, who, after the image of God in holiness, in righteousness, and in love, is the Expression of God in the Earth. In this only can a man be holy as God is holy, 1Peter 1:15-16. And why it is also written that as he (Jesus) is in this world so are we, 1John 4:17. And how is Jesus? He is without sin.
   So now, the book of Mathew chapter 1 verse 23 says that the child that was to be born would be named Emmanuel, that being interpreted as, God with us. Was God only with those people who were alive at the same time that Jesus was? Now reason that if God with us means the person of Jesus, that is his flesh, then when he was taken up into heaven God was no longer with us. Because if only by Jesus’ flesh body God was with us then what when his flesh body was no longer here on this earth? Is God not with us? And if you reason that God is with us by His Spirit, the Holy Ghost, then why was it not always so when Jesus was on the Earth also? God didn’t leave us a man to take Jesus’ place so that God could always be with us. God gave His Spirit, the Holy Spirit for that. That means that the man who says he sits in Jesus seat on this earth is an imposter. And that Jesus was not, neither ever will be God. But God always was, and always will be with men by His Spirit, not by the flesh of any man.
   God named His Word Jesus when He sent him into this world as a man for the sole purpose that other men would have an example of truth to follow and that men would apply that example to their own lives so that they could have that life that God gave to His first born (again) son.
   So, there can be no argument that Jesus was and is and always will be the Word of God.
   Now see this: How could God, who speaks and it comes to pass (Genesis 1:3,6,9,11,14,Romans 4:17) speak any thing but His Word, which he made to be flesh, and by His Word God made the worlds (Hebrews 1:2) and all things (John 1:3). How can God do any thing but by His Word? Do you not perceive that God Spoke the light into existence in Genesis 1:3 where it says, and God said? The light shown in the darkness and the darkness comprehended it not, John 1:5. Darkness did not comprehend the Word of God then, and it still does not comprehend it to this day. That is why God made the means also whereby the children of darkness and the children of light would be made manifest, (John 3:19,8:12, 1John3:9,10 Note: Is not Jesus a brother unto his brethren, The same Jesus that said “if you love me, keep my commandments”? But Jesus didn’t come preaching the law of Moses, but the law of grace.)
   God and His Word are inseparable because of the unity of the same Spirit between them in the truth of God, John 1:1, and John 18:37 in which Jesus said specifically that he came into the world to BEAR WITNESS of the truth of God, Which also answers the question asked by Herod when he said; What is truth, John 18:38. (God and His Children are inseparable because of the unity of the same Spirit also. Is not Jesus the son of God? And so he is one of God’s children also.). They are of the same mind. If God does not keep and do His own Word then He would be a hypocrite and satan’s argument would be valid, God wouldn’t be worthy to be God, neither would He be able to judge righteously if there was unrighteousness with Him. God sent His son, the word of God in the flesh, manifest as Jesus, whom God made to be His Christ, sent to bear witness of this very oneness of mind between God and the people of God who walk in, and abide in, the unity of the same Spirit, God’s Holy Spirit as Jesus did always, and now does, and will do forever. The only lapse in this unity between God and Jesus being from the moment of Jesus’ birth until the time of his baptism by God in the Holy Ghost. This done as an open display of the power of God alone to save the fallen creature from the death of sin. Nothing is clean, nothing is holy, nothing is pure but by God’s Word commanding it, not even Jesus.
   Nothing happens but by the spoken Word of God. That is why it is said that by His Word (by God’s Word) the worlds and all things were created. Now see this furthermore: It is established that God made all “things”, (John1:3). Well the angel Gabriel in speaking unto Mary called the Child that was to be born of her, even Jesus, a “thing” (Luke 1:35). God made Israel (Isaiah 43:1,7,15,21), the genealogy of the tribe of Judah is clearly outlined in the books of Matthew and Luke, and the scripture that says that he came unto his own and his own received him not (John 1;11), all clearly states that Jesus was a creature, a thing, that was made by God, as every other creature. Also while pondering whether Jesus was a man, the son of God, the Word of God come in the flesh, consider these passages; Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker? (Job 4:17) And this: (Jesus speaking) Why callest thou me good, there is none good but one, that is, God, (Mark 10:18). So, How is Christ eternal? Well because the Holy Spirit that Jesus is joined together with God by is eternal. And that makes every believer who was chosen in him from before the foundation of the world eternal also, by the same Spirit. And how is it that the Word of God has no beginning, no end, is without (earthly) mother, without (earthly) father, and has no lineage?, (Hebrews 7:3). It is because God cannot be separated from His own word but is separate from all flesh and will be separate from all flesh even the flesh of His own son Jesus, who was only sent into this present world as an expendable vessel. Since God is eternal, His word is eternal, and His Holy Spirit is eternal, and every believer being eternal is yet to be made manifest at a time of God’s choosing. And thus it is written: there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are (of) one (mind and one accord by the same Spirit of holiness), 1John 5:7. In this is the Godhead, three individuals in existence, all with an indivisible unity of purpose, and thus One, by the same Spirit. Of which it is also said by Jesus in John Chapter 17 that the same purpose is that every believer be joined together in the same mind by the same Spirit and will be One with the same mind of the Godhead also,(John 17:16-26), having the unity of the same purpose which is the cause for which Jesus Christ was sent into the world that he might, by the power of God in him, destroy the works of the devil, (1 John 3:8). And so, there are three members of the Godhead which includes the many members, that is all faithful believers in Christ, the rest of the body, in the unity of one Spirit.
   And so some do say that Jesus being Lord of the Sabbath is an indicator that He is God. Have they not read how that God made Jesus both Lord and Christ?, (Acts 2:36). Why then is it a marvel that this same Jesus whom literally every Bible version states that God Made him to be both Lord and Christ would be Lord of the Sabbath also? That means that those who abide in him faithfully fulfill all of the Sabbath requirements but without the ritual workings of the law. God gave Jesus dominion over the Sabbath also. It is that simple. Why do they make that statement out to be saying something that it does not say? There is no understanding in them who put another mediator between God and man besides Jesus. And why would others who do not believe that same false doctrine take an idolaters word for truth? That is called a non-credible witness in earthly courts, how much more in God’s court?
   Now, you can dispute with the KJV Bible if the spirit of a devil leads you that way, but you will have to dispute with many other versions, some even older than KJ. Scripture twisters being led of a spirit that is not of God will change, with subtlety, certain wording to satisfy their false doctrines. In this case pushing the doctrine that Jesus is indeed God is pushing a lie. ( Do I question their faith, their zeal? No. But I question what it is that they have faith in, and what false doctrines that they have a zeal for). Do they worship the creature more than the creator? Jesus was a creature that God made so it is apparently so.
   Remember where we said in Section 7 of this writing that God made the light before He made the lights (Genesis 1:3). That light was to be the manifestation of Gods Word in the Flesh, where Jesus’ ministry did not begin until his baptism in the Holy Ghost, the enmity that God spoke of to the Devil (Genesis 3:15), which is inseparable from God in the same purpose, the same mind, by the same Spirit, the Holy Spirit, that would be given unto all that believe, joining them together in that same unity of the Holy Ghost of which Jesus was partaker first, and then every believer would follow that example. That was, and is, God’s plan. That is where they become fellow soldiers of the faith (Philippians 2:25, 2 Timothy 2:3,4) Christ Jesus having been made their captain (Hebrews 2:10). And the weapons of their warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of the strongholds of evil through prayer (2 Corinthians 10:4, 1 Timothy 1:18,19 ) by the righteousness of God in them (Romans 8:14) by the baptism of the Holy Ghost (James 5:16). NOTE: Watch for the capital “S” in the KJV, meaning Holy Spirit, a proper name designating the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
   Those who deny the individuality of being between God and Jesus deny the Father and the son, which is not a simple notion set forth but a tenet of the faith of one God. (1 John2:22,23; 5:1). If a man says that Jesus is the son of God but then teaches and believes that Jesus is also God, that man is divided in his heart and has opposed himself (2 Timothy 2:25), and is double minded. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways (James 1:8)
   The unity of all spirits that believe and obey God, that is, the being of one mind, and of one accord, and of one purpose, is accomplished by the Holy Spirit where every spirit of all believers, Jesus first, who also received the baptism of the Holy Ghost, Acts 10:38, may have the knowledge of God and the power of God that He provided to the saving of a soul, if the believer is able to obey that Spirit with a clear conscience, Hebrews 9:14; cf Romans 8:3, and what they know to do, they are doing it to the best of their ability. Not only that but the obedient angels desire to look into that hope that God alone has given as His plan of salvation from satan’s mess, (1 Peter1:12)
   That is why God, who the scriptures say is an individual spirit (explanation forthcoming), gave His Holy Spirit to dwell in the believer.
   God is a spirit, John4:24. Jesus had his own spirit, but as every creature that trusts in the salvation of God, Jesus’ spirit was transformed by the Holy Spirit at his baptism, Luke 3:21,22, as with every believer that is converted by that unifying Spirit in the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
   Unity is of faith and takes place in the hearts and the minds of every believer in the body of Christ, Romans 13:2, Titus 3:5, of which Jesus Christ is the head while the head of Christ is God, 1 Corinthians 11:3. That is why Jesus said twice in Revelation “worship God”. (See Revelation 22:16 first for this, then see Revelation 19:10 and 22:9.)
   Now, John 4:24 says “God is a spirit” in the KJV Bible. By saying “a spirit” Jesus was declaring in the singular the individual that he called Father, even God, to be singular in existence. Other versions of the Bible that say “God is spirit” and in so doing remove the singular designation, do err. The removal of the word “a” from the sentence changes the context of the phrase. To say that God is “a” spirit means that He is an individual spirit. To say that God “is” spirit, leaving out the “a” says that all things that have spirit are God, that is false. Every spirit that God made, and His own spirit are individual spirits in existence.
   There are spirits that are of God, that is to say, that they are of the same mind. And there are spirits that are not of God because they Don’t do His will neither do they obey His voice, 1 John 4:1-4.
   Because God gave His Holy Spirit to dwell in every believer doesn’t make them all God. Neither did the same baptism of the Holy Spirit of the living God make Jesus Christ God either because he is of the same body with the rest of the believers. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is where the manifestation of God in the flesh takes place, that is the Spirit of God in the believer as they are on this earth in their flesh. Jesus first, then every believer in their course, thus the body of Christ, the true church not made with hands, every believer who are baptized in and obedient to the Holy Ghost is the all encompassing manifestation of God in the Flesh. Jesus first, then every believer with him and in him. All by the power of God who alone is able to do that which He said He would do in bringing many sons unto glory by the model and example of His son Christ Jesus whom He sent for that purpose. Glory to God.
   The way that God was in Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19 was by the Holy Ghost, as with every believer who has received the Holy Spirit to dwell in them, John 14:23. If you read that scripture, let’s now ask the question: How is it that Jesus, and God, and the Holy Spirit all live in the believer and the believer in them? The answer is this; You can’t change the motive of any who are joined together in one mind and one accord by the same Spirit of holiness, which in this case is God’s Holy Spirit, which is of God, and is given of God to every believer, Jesus first, for the cause of the unity of the faith of one God, God gives to every believer the power to overcome this present world the same as He did to Jesus who also overcame this present world, John 16:33.
   Receive this knowledge, if you are able: If a man can be possessed of an evil spirit then once freed of that evil he may in turn become a possession of God by the baptism of God’s Holy Spirit. There are many evil spirits created by God (Isaiah 45:7) for the trying of every creature whether they will serve God or no. But there is only one Holy Spirit whereby men are saved. Jesus, as one of those creatures, made the right choice first in receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost and obeying God. If Jesus had not done this first as a man in the flesh body of sins then no one would be able to as they are in their flesh body of sins, Romans 7:18 and see Matthew 19:17. But cleansed by the Holy Ghost according to the inward man, 1 Corinthians 4:16.
   Read John Chapter 17 and Hebrews chapters 2 and 5 carefully. And God give eyes to see His truth unto all who should be added unto His Church. Amen

   To the nay sayers who will bring up Jesus’ disputing with the doctors at the age of twelve who said: know ye not that I must be about my Fathers business. This statement he made of himself following the many prophesies that had gone out before regarding him, that he would be God’s Christ. This noting: that no creature is a child of God in spirit until their baptism in the Holy Ghost. God’s prophesies fail not. It would be good at this time to learn the difference between the quick and the dead.

   It is impossible for me to glorify God without God, and it would have been impossible for Jesus to glorify God without God. Psalms 71:20 says quicken me again. Note that he said; ‘again’, Jesus asked God. The same as he asked in John 17:5 where he said glorify me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee from before the world was.
   When the Spirit of Christ by the mouth of the prophet David said; quicken me again that means he lost something. When he said glorify me again that means he lost something. When did he lose it? When he came to the depths, that is of the earth, also referred to as the lower parts in Ephesians 4:9. This earth is the depths. If you are reading this and you are breathing, then you are in the depths right now. Where Jesus was when he came to the lower parts, that is, of the earth. You’re here. Just like he was. Now, as every person comes to this world as a man; How lower can you get than the death from the fall of Adam? This earth is God’s footstool. And without the Spirit of God in you from here it is to hell. Same as it was for Jesus. God alone made Jesus of quick understanding (Isaiah 11:3). It was God alone who gave Jesus the power to quicken whom he would after having been himself quickened by God, (John5:21). It is God alone who sent Jesus. Did He send himself without saying so that He sent himself? What kind of foolish game is that? Did God split himself up into God over here and man over there? An idolaters fable. Jesus said: My Father is greater than I. It was the spirit of a devil that caused them not to believe Jesus.
   Well then, some might say at this point; How could so many scholars be deceived? Did you not read how that one spirit was approved of God to be a lying spirit in the mouths of all of Ahab’s prophets? (2 Chronicles 18:18-22). One spirit deceived many prophets with a universally accepted lie. Do you think it to be impossible? God does what He will with His own, and for His own purpose. Remember: It is God who set before the whole world good and evil for the purpose that they would make their own choice, (Deuteronomy 30:15-20).

   God is God and man is man. The Father and the son. Two separate individuals. Joined together by and in and through one Spirit, God’s Holy Spirit. And every believer in Christ by the same Spirit. Any other doctrine is cause for anathema from God. Maranatha, Selah.

   These are not my words. I didn’t make the doctrine. I Didn’t make the Word flesh. God did. Dispute with the KJV again if you will. But you will have to twist other verses and dispute other versions also.

   All of the references given in this letter are references from the Word of God only. No writings that are of any private interpretation are used. Please use what I use so we will learn together KJV, if God wills.

   7b
   HIS SOUL WAS MADE AN OFFERING FOR SIN, NOT HIS FLESH ISAIAH 53:10

   When Jesus came into the world, as a man, in the likeness in which the first Adam became a living soul, so was Jesus made a living soul. Being separated from God because of the fall of all men from the sin of the first Adam, Jesus became vulnerable to attack by temptation from that wicked one. Jesus soul was placed on the block and satan lost because Jesus trusted in God. But God seeing the travail of his soul, was satisfied that the atonement for sin had been made, ( Isaiah 53:11 ) and the superior power of God is proven, even in the temptations suffered by Christ Jesus, after his baptism in the Holy Ghost, those forty days in the wilderness. He overcame by the power of God. So intense was that temptation that God sent angels to minister unto Jesus after that ordeal. Thus Christ was strengthened and was made able to bare the burden of sins, not only the sinful nature in which he was born but the sins of the world as well. For which he made the atonement by yielding to the Spirit of God and receiving the baptism of that Spirit. His offering was the will of his own flesh, rather than the carnal substance of his flesh, in exchange to be impressed with the will of God by that same Spirit of grace, God’s Holy Spirit which he obediently harkened unto. And after the pattern of the High priest who offered first for his own sins and then for the people, ( Hebrews 7:27 ), so did Christ Jesus perform all of God’s good pleasure in making the sacrifice of obedience, not only for himself but also for the whole world, whosoever will. Thank the living God for his mercy, not only toward His son Christ Jesus, but for all who believe and obey His voice. Jesus carried the sins of the world to the cross at Calvary with him because he had always been carrying them, being God’s High Priest, and who was made God’s High Priest at his baptism. And was faithful to the end of his life. And so he became Alpha and Omega, the first and the last. The beginning of life, and the end unto salvation. Glory to God for His Gift of life in His first born son Jesus Christ, and that gift of life to those that follow the example that was left by his son. Like as David delivered the sheep from out of the paw of the lion and the bear. Like as the offering of Isaac by Abraham was stayed. So Jesus soul was preserved from the roaring lion, the devil. And the sacrifice was snatched from satan’s grasp, the earnest of the intent to offer having been already seen and accepted by God for righteousness by faith.. Jesus gave his all for the glory of God. And so should every believer yield themselves to the will of God. For in this thing only have they the life that He gave His son. David hazarded his life for the sheep. Abraham hazarded his pride and joy. The willingness of these men is all that God needed to see. Jesus also hazarded his position in heaven with God by being born into this world as a man ; THERE WAS HIS SACRIFICE. Jesus own soul was in peril only by the threat of his own disobedience in yielding unto temptation. But he, and they all spoken of here, won because they trusted in God. And God did win their battles for them by His Spirit. To the Most High God be the honor and glory forever and ever, Amen.
   What He did for these He is well able to do for all who believe and walk in truth. Although Jesus died at the Cross of Calvary the Sacrifice was his soul. The battle was over his soul. But satan lost the battle by the power of God’s Holy Spirit in His obedient son. Glory to the Most High God who alone created the scenario, and it played out it as He said it would be.

   So why was Jesus’ soul in travail? For the same reason that Paul expressed when Paul said that he wished that he could be cursed from Christ in exchange for his brethren after the flesh, the Israelites (Romans 9:2-6). The same reason for Jesus’ manner of speech when he said; My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me. Jesus speaking at that time in the place of His brethren, Israel, to whom he came in his flesh but they received him not. Jesus soul was in peril of failing to do the will of God for his entire life on earth when he knew who he was, even God’s Christ. And before he became God’s Christ at about the age of thirty, he had been shown who he was by God. Destined to be God’s Christ at birth but not actually made the Christ of God until his baptism in the Holy Ghost. And so he tasted death for all men by being born, and also poured out his soul unto the death of forsaking this present world in dying unto sin, the same as every believer is instructed to do, so he himself did, receiving the Holy Spirit of the living God that enabled him to overcome this world and the weakness of the flesh, even his own flesh. The thing that God forsakes is the fallen flesh that all are born into this world with. That is why Paul said in Romans chapter 7 that in him, that is in his flesh there dwells no good thing. Same flesh that Jesus came to this world in for which cause he said; why callest me thou good, there is none good but God. And that is why God gives it a glorified body in place of the first one (Philippians 3:21), a bodily constitution that cannot be tempted again, to dwell in the world that is to come forever, as he did His son Jesus. And further, that is why Jesus said that in the resurrection (that is bodily resurrection) there is neither male nor female and they do not marry neither are given in marriage, (Luke 20:35,36) My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me was a rhetorical question not asked for himself because he already knew the answer. But the question was asked in a mystery that spiritually discerns the word. Read the Psalm 22. Vs.20 which says; deliver my soul. Thus the allegory of the two goats, the one given up, (where he said; I lay down my life for the sheep, no man takes it from me), the other is spared. Do you yet see it? Can you give up your flesh attachment to this world and this worlds goods as he did, (1 John 2:15-17). It is required of all who abide in him. In this the soul is spared, not the flesh body. Jesus is the head of the sheep, the church, is he not a lamb as well? Will you show your love for him as he did for the sheep. If not, then it is doubtful that you hear his voice. And it is doubtful that you are of the same flock. If you are His, ask God about it. He will tell you. But ask in sincerity. He knows a faker when He sees one. But also, be ready to wait as long as it takes for the right answer. In the mean time search the scriptures and take the time necessary for growth in the knowledge of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ.

   Jesus had a certain job to do. But Jesus was not God. If Jesus was God then why did Moses call him a prophet? (Deuteronomy 18:15-18) and confirmed in at least two other places in the New Testament writings, to wit: John 6:14 where the disciples identified him as having come in the capacity of prophet, and Luke 24:19, in which in this case the disciples were actually speaking to Jesus on the road to Emmaus, not knowing that it was him to whom they were even speaking, when they called him a prophet. Now, they called Jesus a prophet and Jesus did not rebuke or correct them for it because he knew that he indeed was the prophet of whom Moses spake. Deuteronomy 18:18 says I will put my words in his mouth, that is God speaking of Jesus. And Jesus confirms that the words that God gave him, he gave those words to the disciples and every believer, see John 17:8. Did God put those words in His own mouth? No. He put those words in His prophets mouth. That prophet was, and is, Jesus. Only because the works were finished from before the foundations of the world (Hebrews 4:3) is the scripture made manifest that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever (Hebrews 13:8). Because once God had spoken it, it could not be unspoken again. It could not be reversed. Neither did the word speak itself, but God spoke it. So, Jesus Christ, is the word of God made flesh, not because the man Jesus spoke it, but because God spoke it.
   Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God (acts 2:22). A Great prophet is risen up among us (Luke 7:14), a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest except God be with him (John 3:2), Jesus answered and said, Verily, Verily I say unto thee, except a man be born again (born from above, born of God receiving the Holy Spirit, the power of God) he cannot see the kingdom of God, (c.f. John 3:27, a man can receive nothing except it be given him from heaven). Men receive nothing unless God gives it to them. Jesus was a man and only a man. If God gave himself gifts then that makes him a hypocrite. Since we know that God is not a hypocrite then it is not God who has made himself to look like one but the Nicene Creed that was developed by evil men that is made to make God’s name be blasphemed. The Lord of all, The Most High God require it of them who weep for Tammuz and who see a Phoenix, a chimera on a stained glass window or a piece of toast and worship it. It is witchcraft and idolatry.
   Does the majority rule? We have noted that there is a broad gate and a narrow one. Being that the righteous, who will be few, enter in at the narrow gate, does the majority rule? Not in the eyes of God they don’t. But they won’t be fighting against me in that day, or any man. They will find themselves fighting against God Himself. Woe unto these who shall find themselves fighting against the Most High God.

   7c

   IS JESUS GOD?

   God has given the answer decisively in this proof:

   The reason why Jesus is not God, neither is God Jesus is because Jesus needed salvation that God alone can give. Romans 8:17 sets forth the fact that there is a benefactor and a beneficiary. It is clear upon proper analysis of the verse of scripture that the giver of the gift of life is God, and the recipient of the gift is Christ and all that are in him, every faithful believer. Now one false teacher said that the Gift mentioned in Romans 8:17 is not the gift of eternal life. That is false. Hebrews 1:14 says that the inheritance is of salvation, and that the angels minister to the heirs of such. Mark 1:13 concluded the fact that Jesus was also partaker of such things by saying that the angels ministered unto him. And what was the reason that the angels ministered unto Jesus other than that he is the heir?
   The relationship between benefactor and beneficiary is beyond all dispute.
   Conclusion: God is never the beneficiary of eternal life. But Jesus is.. And since God is always the benefactor of the gift of life eternal, and is never a beneficiary of such, then Jesus can in no way be God. Neither can God in any way be Jesus.

   Thank the living God for that which He put in His book for that reason.

   Consider: If One gives something to another and then tells them to go give it to these others, then the One who gave it initially is the benefactor. The one who delivered it to these others is Just a messenger, a servant, Isaiah 42:1, John17:8. The reward of faithful, obedient service being eternal life. Psalms 21:4, Luke 11:13, John 3:5,6.
Did not Jesus, being a Man, (Galatians 4:4), follow his own doctrine when he said that a man must be baptized in the Holy Ghost and that God is to be asked for the gift of life?, Luke 11:13, John 3:5.
Yes, Moses did write of God’s Christ that was to come and now is come. Moses wrote that it is God who put His words in Jesus’ mouth, Deuteronomy 18:18.
The word didn’t speak itself. It Is God who spoke it. Genesis 1:3 says that God spoke the light into existence before He made the lights, Genesis 1:14. Genesis 1:3 speaks of the light that darkness did not comprehend, John 1:5. And to this day darkness does not comprehend. Be not darkness, but light in the truth of God.
All things are /OF/ God. But /BY/ his spoken word. 1Corinthians 8:6. This verse distinguishes two separate individuals, but who are like minded.

   This understanding, given of God from out of His own book wrecks the Nicene Creed. It wrecks the Apostles Creed. It wrecks Mariolatry. Which dogmas are made up and are not the doctrine of God. Jesus needed God for salvation. God didn’t save a god, He saved His son, a man, John 8:40 KJV, and all who come by the pattern of His son.

   God did place this evidence in His book as a testimony against them.
   God has torn and gone away from the false witnesses. Will they yet listen?

   The fact that Jesus was born under the law, Galatians 4:4, and Paul said that the scripture has concluded all under sin, Galatians 3:22,. Did you see that? ‘ All under sin ‘ makes no exception for Jesus otherwise Paul would have said that there was an exception. Also, In Adam all die, 1Corinthians 15:22, Romans 5:12. That is speaking of the spiritual death that all are partakers from the fall of Adam, even the man Jesus. The scripture Romans 3:10 makes no exception. No not one, for the person of Christ either.

   If One gives something to another and then tells them, now go give it to these others, then the One who gave it initially is the benefactor, and the one who was directed to give it to others is just a messenger, a servant, Isaiah 42:1 John 17:8,

   You can’t just ignore the relationship between benefactor and beneficiary. Did God save Him self and not His son? Did God save a God or another God? The answer is a resounding NO.

   Those that call Jesus God deny the Father and the son and are antiChrist.

   The divine nature that was in Christ Jesus is the same that is available to all men who believe and obey God’s instructions, 2Peter 1:4. Jesus was the first of many sons that will be brought to glory, and was only the trailblazer, Hebrews 6:20

   Consider this also, and here is the question that counts:
   Some say that if Jesus wasn’t God then the sacrifice would have been ineffective toward the salvation of souls. But the reality of the matter is this rather. All who are in Christ are saved by what he did, not by who he was. If Christ wasn’t delivered from the power of satan first then nobody would have been able to be. I cannot abide in a saviour who was not himself saved. And so all who believe that Jesus is God and needed no salvation from the fall of all mankind, have no hope because they abide in a false hope.

   Then some one said to me, well Jesus was without sin. That’s true, but not for his entire life on earth in his flesh. He was born a fallen creature. Then after God baptized him in the Holy Ghost, he kept himself unspotted from the world, without sin, until the time of his death. The same as every believer is taught to do. That is why Paul said; Awake unto righteousness and sin not, 1Corinthians 15:34. Following the pattern and the example that Christ left us, 1Peter 2:21. And so Jesus was the holy sacrifice, but only because of the baptism in, and obedience to the Holy Spirit of the living God.

   So, are those that say Jesus is God saved? The doctrine shown in scripture says no. Are those that call themselves children of the most High God, and yet call themselves sinners, saved. The doctrine shown in scripture says no to this as well. There is no such thing as a holy sinner.

   To say that Jesus is God is to say that God cheated. There is no devil that does not tremble before God, James 2:19. The devil, satan himself, obeys God, Job Chaps. 1 and 2. What chance would the devil have had if he were to go up against God? But weak flesh, satan thought he had a chance at. The challenge was this: Which spirit would a man obey? The Holy Spirit, or the spirit of a devil. God made choice of those that would be His from before the foundation of the world, Ephesians 1;4, 1Peter 2:9. Believers are of his bone and of his flesh, Ephesians 5:30, of the son of God, Christ Jesus. How can they be saved through the grace that God gave him to give to others if he is not also saved by the same power of God?

   To say that Jesus is God cheats God as well. Because it says that God’s Spirit has no power to save

   It is God who anointed Jesus with the Holy Ghost, Acts 10:38, and with the power to be the sacrifice, first for himself, and also for the sins of the people, Hebrews 7:27. Is the Holy Spirit ineffective? God will judge.

   God is eternally pure, clean, holy and righteous. God is Just and is the Judge of all. God never needed to be sanctified. Jesus did.

   It is God only who sanctified the temple, the altar, and the priests, Aaron and his sons, Exodus 29:44. And Sanctified Israel with his glory, Exodus 29:43; 40:34.
   In the New Covenant Jesus is the altar and the high priest, Hebrews 13:10, Hebrews 4:14.
   Jesus asked God for His glory that sanctified him as high priest, and that which made Jesus the Christ, the salvation of God as being the altar, and that which sanctified the entire congregation of believers ( who are also made to be priests and kings, 1Peter 2:5,9, Revelation 5:10 ) of those who for all time would believe on the name of the Son of God, Reference: John 12:28; 13:32; 16:14; and the place where the specific request was made by Jesus to be given God’s glory, which sanctifies, John 17: verses 1 and 5.

   This clearly shows another certain proof of the relationship between benefactor and beneficiary and is not a weak stance because God’s scriptures are not weak but are given for the purpose of dispelling every lie.

   And why did Jesus say that he sanctified himself if he was born sanctified?, John 17:19. Sanctification is by God’s Holy Spirit, 2Thessalonians 2:13, with which Jesus was filled, John 6:34
   It was the duty of every high priest to sanctify himself. Jesus was no exception, being a man and only a man. And what would be the sense of abiding in him, and what would be the sense of following him, you being a man, if he did not also do what you are told to do, being a man? When God baptized Jesus in the Holy Ghost Jesus became a new creature also, raised from the death that was brought upon all men by the disobedience of Adam.
   It was that new creature that Jesus became that knew no sin.
   And so ,he that is begotten of God sinneth not, 1John 5:18.

   No where in scripture does the phrase ‘ begotten of God ‘ refer to the virgin conception or birth of Christ. The term ‘ begotten of God ‘ means born again by the baptism of the Holy Ghost. 1John 5:18.

   So then, as he is, so are we in this world, 1 John 4:17, without sin from the moment of being born again, ‘ begotten of God ’.

   The conscience is in play on that. Hebrews 9:14 shows that the conscience is cleansed by the blood of Christ.
   And what is the significance of the blood of Christ?
   It isn’t as gory as false teachers make it out to be .
   The blood of Christ is a figure of the new creature, and is emblematic of being born again.
   Look at 1John 5:7and 8.
   The three that are mentioned in each verse correspond with each other.
   So, ‘ the Father ‘ corresponds to spirit, I.e. God is a spirit, John4:24.
   The ‘ word ‘ corresponds to the washing of the word.
   And ‘ Holy Ghost ‘ in verse 7 corresponds to the blood in verse 8.
   Now, God made the first creature, Adam, that first generation, or manufacture if you will, fell. And all of the first creation of man fell because of Adam’s error.
   But by the baptism of the Holy Ghost is the creature renewed, born again, a new creature, hence the blood of Christ is speaking of the renewal of all who believe and obey the voice of God and His doctrine, His plan of salvation, as Jesus did.
   So, new blood, new manufacture, new creatures, made after the image of God from which Adam fell.
   Jesus did it first so that God’s plan to bring many sons unto glory could be enacted.
   That is the man Jesus.
   He obeyed God.

   NOW, The Q&A :
   Where did God get His Glory? What is God’s original source for Glory? Or who gave to God that he might give to others?
   ANSWER : 1Chronicles 29:10-13. And also this that Jesus said to God: Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Matthew 6:13
   And now this Question: Where did Jesus get his glory? What is Jesus’ original source for glory? Who gave to him that he might give to others?
   ANSWER : Jesus thanked God for the glory that only is the possession of God, and is only God’s to give, John 17:22,24. After having asked God for that Glory, John 17:5.

   Even search engines that support AI programming report the truth that God is His own Source of original glory, While reporting at the same time That Jesus original source of glory is God. God’s glory is intrinsically inherent. But Jesus has no glory but that which God alone can give.

   What Jesus received : Answer from Microsoft Bing to the question : What is Jesus original source of glory?
   For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, ‘This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased’—and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain” (2 Pet. 1:16-18).

   What God gave to Jesus : Answer from Microsoft Bing to the question : What is God’s original source of glory?
   The Bible is clear that God is the source of all glory. He is the originator of everything that is good, true, and beautiful. His glory reflects His perfect, unfailing love and authority over all creation. He has gifted us with a measure of His own glory, allowing us to reflect His divine nature.

   What Jesus received : Answer from Firefox search engine to the question : What is Jesus original source of glory?
   AI Overview
   In the Bible, Jesus’s glory comes from God, who is the source of all glory. Jesus is the fullest expression of God’s glory, and through him, people can see God’s grace and love. 

   What God Gave to Jesus : Answer from Firefox search engine to the question : What is God’s original source of glory?
   AI Overview
   According to Christian theology, God’s original source of glory is His inherent nature, meaning His perfect attributes and character, which are intrinsic to who He is; essentially, God’s glory comes from His own being, not from anything external, and is manifested through His creation and actions in the world.

   What Jesus received : Answer from Firefox search engine to the question : Where did Jesus get the gift of life?
   AI Overview
   In the Bible, Jesus was given the gift of life by God, and he came to give the gift of eternal life to humanity. 

   What God gave to Jesus : Answer from Firefox search engine to the question ; Is God a beneficiary of salvation?
   AI Overview
   No, according to Christian theology, God is not considered a “beneficiary” of salvation because He is the source and giver of salvation, meaning He does not need to be saved Himself; humans are the ones who receive the benefit of salvation from God. 

   Did you see it? God’s original source of glory is Himself. He needs no other source. Romans 11:35, Isaiah 30:14, Acts 17:25.
   Jesus would have had no glory if God had not given it to him. Deuteronomy 18:18, Isaiah 42:1, John 17:5,8, Psalms 21:4.

   Seeing that salvation, the gift of life from God, and eternal glory, are all one and the same expression, Acts 13:47,48, 2 Timothy 2:10, Ephesians 4:30, it follows that :
   Jesus would have had no glory if God had not given it to him.
   Jesus would have had no hope of eternal life if God had not given it to him.

   There would have been no manifestation of God in the flesh of Jesus Christ if God had not baptized Jesus in the Holy Ghost. Acts 10:38, John 3:3,5.

   Jesus was also sealed with that Holy Spirit of Promise unto the day of redemption as every believer who receives the gift of God, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. SEE: John 6:27, Ephesians 1:13 and Ephesians 4:30.

   If Jesus had no need of redemption then why did God baptize him with the Holy Ghost?

   The image of God is in behavior, not in appearance. The behavior is only brought into alignment with God’s will by God’s Holy Spirit. If the believer obeys the Spirit God. Romans 1:4, Romans 8:14.

   Obedience and faith are inseparable. Both are required. Romans 1:5, James 2:27-22. Man cannot have obedience without faith. If a man is disobedient to the Holy Ghost, it is evidence that he has no faith. Matthew 7:20, Isaiah 63:10.

   By the offering of his will for the will of God Jesus perfected obedience to the Holy Ghost, Hebrews 10:14, and made it possible for all believers, who follow his pattern, to be sanctified by the Spirit of holiness as he was, 1Peter 2:1

   The definition of the word ‘Christ’ is ‘Pattern’. Colossians 2:17, Hebrews Chapters 8-10. He left us an example to follow, 1Peter 2:21, and a pathway better than that of Abel, Hebrews 12:24.

   The Lord gave the word ~ Jesus is God’s letter to the world ~ Psalms 68:11.
   Even the messenger of the covenant ~ The messenger is the letter ~ Malachi 3:1.
   Sealed with God’s own seal of approval ~ by the giving of the Holy Spirit ~ Psalms 2:7.
   Certified with God’s own seal of authority ~ for there is no power but the power of God ~ Psalms 110:1
   The letter is given to all who will hear, and to all who will not ~ for righteousness for those who will hear, for judgement for those who will not. Ezekiel 2:5

   This proof is now clear a third time that God alone is the giver of the gift of life. And Jesus was the recipient of the gift from God. The relationship between benefactor and beneficiary of Romans 17:8 is secured to show that Jesus is in no way God, and God is in no way Jesus.

   And what about the manifestation of the sons of God, Romans 8:18,19, when the saints shall judge the world and angels, 1Corinthians 6:2,3, when all of the saints will go from glory to glory and will receive the fulness of the Spirit as Jesus received. The time that Jesus was speaking of when he said, He that believeth and is baptized ( he is speaking of the baptism of the Holy Ghost ), the works that I do shall he do also, and greater works than these shall he do, John 14:12.
   Will false teachers then say that all of the saints are God, or gods? It won’t matter. Because then it will be too late for them.

   There is an order that the living God has set in place, 1Corinthians 11:3. God, the source of all glory, gave some of that glory unto Jesus when He baptized Jesus in the Holy Ghost. God gave Jesus further glory, John 12:28, when Jesus was risen up to heaven after coming out of the grave, and when he was risen to the Father, his body was redeemed, John 7:39; 12:16, ( SEE: Romans 8;!9-23 for context on this ). And Jesus said that the glory that God had first given to him, he in turn gave to all believers in their course. John 17:22,24. That they may walk as he walked while he was in his body on earth, waiting for the same hope.
   The behavior of the children of God determines whether they are conformed to the image of Christ Jesus, who showed the example of being conformed to the image of God.
   Let all of God’s true children honor that order.

   Study to know the truth.
   God show His truth to all that are now, and to all that should be His.

   *NOTE*: I will now make clear that I do not necessarily trust AI on very much, especially when it comes to the Gospel of God. AI per-say has no love for the Lord. It’s name says it all. It is artificial. However, Ai theologian programmers did get this analysis of the word of God right in this case. The main place of conflict in AI answers is when theologian programmers give answers on the premise that Jesus is divine and is therefore God. If AI programmers want their answers to reconcile all across the theological board on this topic, the only way that will happen is to drop the false doctrine that Jesus had his own divinity. My point was simply this: I said ‘EVEN search engines that support AI programming report the truth’. on this aspect of the topic, for the purpose of exposing the lie that Jesus is God, as I have done. Enough said on that.

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      marc

      January 3, 2026

      Very well said, and very deep. I’ve had this understanding for years by the grace of God. I could never begin to provide this analysis but I knew it to be true by diligent study of the Word and a willingness to know the truth.

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   Caleb oguta

   June 14, 2025

   I agree with you for the doing of House Church .
   This the early Christian way of the worship.
   I support it
   God bless you

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